Sunday, October 31, 2010

Embarrassing China Chip

 Correspondents
simmers the essence of five thousand years of Chinese history and culture is clearly not a lack of sufficient publicity in the world of intellectual work, however, adhere four great inventions, bombs and one satellite maps each of situation , but it is the integrity of recent decline of Chinese science and technology and creativity bad, at a time today, has been covering 1.3 billion people, 9.6 million square kilometers territory of modern China's most urgent looking for, it seems that to boost the morale of people creative elite, and elite creative breakthroughs, break through behind the more powerful, more blazing patriotism.
back nearly half a century of Chinese scientific and technological progress, we have reason unknown to those who rise up and good governance in China, willing to sacrifice scientists have expressed great admiration and the admiration, Wang Ganchang, Deng Jiaxian, Pengheng Wu, Qian, Yuan hh these or have already died or are still alive in the science and technology benchmarking, already national backbone, and in the seemingly boring, ordinary life spiritual core, the more embodied, it is the modern market economy, independent of outside life and values of another.
the other hand, the core events in recent years to the Han, the Ark of the event as a milestone marked by China's technology sector, although a large number of readers and the continuation of the long-closed, the unique system of long-standing abuse of Chinese experts on the government's blind support of the missing raised a lot of project monitoring serious sharply criticized, but the chronic institutional transformation of government functions can be clearly non-overnight see the big action, and technology projects launched but did not stop, You Qihan known fraud case after the core, the mass expansion of the already highly emotional encounter a heavy blow, the reader's question on China's technology industry seems to have gradually formed habits, Technology has been an unavoidable need to walk a ways to rebuild public confidence through the fitness of an important juncture.
a relatively unique in this atmosphere of public opinion, the Godson turned out that seems to have caused great concern trepidation that the CAS Institute of Computing, and printing of a large number of questions about the Godson and denounce the past few years has never ceased, and more growing anxiety of the evolution path of the public and the media room for the few into a stereotyped Godson The not ideal, its technology, non-strong pressure from competitors, a series of difficulties and obstacles associated with the continuous advance of the Godson project has become increasingly clear, Godson research group this heavy pressure, calculate the decline to some extent even all media interviews on this topic, declined to make any further comments.
This is not a Godson, this is a piece of AMD's CPU.
tight-lipped about the topic Godson whom even partial to the utmost, not only one CAS Institute of Computing, Zhongguancun Administrative Committee expressly limited to one voice or media contact relevant personnel .2007 at 10:00 on July 12, as some correspondents in the Ministry of Information Industry of China Semiconductor Industry Association, see Xu Xiaotian. in the previous communication Xu said he was concerned about the Godson, you can talk about, but not limited to, the best outline of the contents of the interview, the reporter agreed. but more than an hour in the next communication, Xu, detailed materials of correspondents of access control requirements Otherwise, the many insiders of the correspondents bluntly, Godson current predicament except the lack of technical performance, the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Chinese Academy of Sciences on the calculation of management mechanism which allows Godson too subtle to enter the national procurement of basic loss of the possibility of burdensome on the system, , and excessive self-interest conservative expectations, forcing the industry chain Godson other companies can not successfully enter the industrial environment Godson, Godson Shishuwunai alone, and this is clearly not the embarrassment of the state sustain long-term, market is constantly changing, and stay not much time to the Godson.
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for , within the three pillars of the previous pattern has gradually evolved as Intel and AMD's two-stroke each other, the global number of developed countries such as Britain and France has not yet CPU industry, China is worth the risk? at such a high eco-monopoly in the market, trying to never to have, single-handedly made in China hit a new CPU, its difficult to imagine, to which the industry point of view is more consistent, do not do, because not worth.
ST (STMicroelectronics) Young Engineer of the Ke TV reporter about his views, said that China-made CPU is not meaningful to do, it is not necessary, but since done, we should seize the target market, take aim, applications, architecture to choose the right, there is not much accumulated in circumstances, within a few days trying to come up with a CPU, is not possible, and expect the formation of Intel's technology in a short time the strength and influence, not reality. I think that China can be a CPU, even if the performance difference does not matter then, the gradual accumulation of technology, the accumulation of talent, the accumulation of China's influence in the industry and stick to it, should be a way out, told reporters.
face questions from correspondents, senior adviser to Beijing Applied Materials, the semiconductor industry experienced a great health experts and journalists seem to be more willing to revisit this story: During the Gulf War, the U.S. military before the air strike in Baghdad, will be Iraqi printer virus integrated circuit on the remote control activation of hidden, so that penetrated the main Iraqi military command center computer system, resulting in failure of the Iraqi chain of command, then complete paralysis of the entire Iraqi air defense system. the initiative to master the battlefield to long-term perspective, if only from the temporary economic interests in mind, it is a superficial understanding Godson is not to rural areas, is not to rural children, if we really do understand, that is, the easy road.
7 18, CAS Institute of Computing researchers, chief designer of the Godson CPU Lounge Weiwu accepted in the calculation of the Digest confidential for reasons of national security strategy, CPU must be on. in accordance with Weiwu point of view, first of all, Chinese companies must master the core technology, but should not stop at the end of the industrial chain, to higher ground away. Second, China must Development of controlled technology industry, and the information industry as the core CPU can not control in any case the hands of foreigners.
and too many statements of many national strategic security significance compared with each other, in support of the party made in the CPU, made almost no one is willing to go into details with how the CPU market opportunities in the end, roughly all of the comments point to one thing: this thing is said to benefit national security, then we deserved to go to support it, even if the power of the government dumping the great development of the national referendum s, are completely understandable, but also normal, within the context of the right.
semiconductor analyst at CCID Consulting, Ke Li, can not agree with the above views. Li Ke believes that the market behavior, or whether it is government action, whether it is indeed for the country led some people bent on advertised or national significance, which is to be distinguished from blind to the significance of the product itself is not overstating the fact, any substantive good, but postponed further development of such ideas, government support will flow in the rash, Hanxin , the Ark of the need to constantly remember the lesson.
Ministry of Information Industry Software and Integrated Circuit Promotion Center for Qiushan Qin reporter in an interview analysis is that national security is not a CPU can solve the problem, but CPU is very important, if Yes, to a higher safety factor, but did not and does not mean that the State is not safe. in the real play, how to play a role (complex instruction set common, or complex instruction set common), and the second for the RISK system (reduced instruction set, or reduced instruction set). it is widely known is the use of CISK system CPU is called x86 architecture, now The architecture has become the mainstream of the global CPU architecture, Intel and AMD as its representative company. RISK in the relatively weak within the system, there were several small camps, one for power camp, basically led three companies, IBM, HP and Motorola. The other is called sparc camp, SUN-led. The third camp for the MIPS, MIPS technology-driven. The CAS Institute of Computing has launched the Godson series of general-purpose processors are used, it is RISK system MIPS architecture, and the media MIPS on the calculation and speculation patent dispute between the origin of this sketch.
in Weiwu in October 2001 published a long time (from early 2000 to start doing pre-research), discussed a number of rounds, but we really started working the design in November 2000. just started is the Tang Zhimin, and I took seven or eight graduate students to do the system design mainly determine the instruction and pipeline. early in the design Lisuo Chang (Li Guojie - Press Note) in the whole of the meeting identified a Min and I was determined and the use of RISC structure compatible with the two specific goals. Although the IA-64 structure was fried, quite hot, but we decided to use RISC structure, it now appears, this is right. I began to advice and instruction Alpha-compatible, but Tang Zhimin MIPS compatible with the final set. Ark II One MIPS architecture have been developed by design, but since have not been successful, and the CAS has not been calculated where the case of MIPS duly authorized,Discount UGG boots, unauthorized launch of a comprehensive copy of such a basic common MIPS architecture CPU chips, apparently annoyed the MIPS, the MIPS was not originally a big way, the reason for international action, there are two reasons: First, from within the industry, the camp compared to ARM, MIPS's strength is still weak, MIPS very much hope to be able to obtain certain economic benefits based on the expansion of camp, and enhance strength. Second, the Godson has not yet formed the business climate, MIPS are further waiting to see.
one indisputable fact is that, when the CAS Institute of Computing Godson computer matching for the operating system running on Microsoft When the letter from the MIPS stern began to Microsoft's attention to the message, the value of patent litigation risk and the fear of making Microsoft eventually gave up the talk of the already good cooperation, and for the Godson customized Windows CE then abdominal fetal death in. one of embarrassment as Weiwu later told correspondents said, Speaking of correspondents, said Godson and MIPS-time analysis, calculated on the basis of independent innovation, which is very effective use of the patent period of opportunity. According to the first group of land description, MIPS total of 80 patents related to technology, according to current international generally follow the patent period, to successful development of Godson year in China of at least 76 patents have been outdated, so, at least in China, Godson some way to complete the copying did not constitute a technical legal sense of the infringement, But then until the year 2006, MIPS core still has four patents in the legal protection, the Godson naturally can not openly engage in asking price is too high, not exactly alike, so are not compatible with the MIPS would be difficult to avoid the embarrassment, but the resulting calculation of the embarrassment that is more miserable. Fortunately, goes out complex crows, the final calculations with the ST (ST) a cooperative manner, with the ST, to pay costs associated with MIPS, Godson such a big thing, so no need to conceal, solve the right, need it so prevarication it? Therefore, the Godson is also nothing to be ashamed of, but in this issue, the calculations do not think clearly, it should be completely and unreservedly open.
Godson route through the ST, the last four patents purchased MIPS statement , Weiwu not from a direct answer, but reiterated on many occasions to correspondents, responsible, we have a dedicated IP office, shop and go infringement will never do, this you should rest assured that the National research institutes, Chinese Academy of Sciences, the prestigious,UGG boots clearance, how to do copyright infringement thing? br> After the break
Although Microsoft claims to have multiple applications Godson direction, but the industry is still most concerned about the development prospects of Godson PC.
Godson unique MIPS architecture as Microsoft's Windows operating system can not be universal match and the previously calculated by the repeated communications with Microsoft's Windows CE and booking solutions are also hesitant because of Microsoft's party, declared in the collapse of helplessness, Godson eventually had to open-source Linux operating system and gradually draw closer. In hardware,Bailey UGG boots, Intel's fierce offensive in the face, Godson also seems very immature. in the operating system, Linux on the type of software, performance, application depth and breadth are far unable to Microsoft's monopoly industries compared to several decades, the industrialization of anxiety Godson unexpected.
great health, said to the reporter, even if the Godson architecture using Linux, there are still many problems, the most simple thing, how to get the international Godson? current international mainstream Windows operating system are now Windows spread so deep, so wide, Godson with international standards would be a problem, to open source, even though Microsoft is very strong, but in recent years, Linux camp is also a little bit of expansion, the average annual market growth rate even reached 30% -40%, have been developing very fast, but Linux is a fix for engineers and control system can be a good self-management, more closely tied to Godson for security, confidentiality requirements. According to Han said that, technically, Linux is no moment of the transfer of the CIA, very hard to say, based on this, the open-source Linux system with stronger security.
Chairman China OSS Promotion Union, the first group of land that, Linux at least two major weaknesses exist, first, entertainment too little, the second can not be off-line operation. But Miss also believe that, Linux has its encouraging side: First of all, Linux server is more mature, desktop software is have a certain security, hacker attacks the virus is difficult; again, Linux is much less than the cost of using Windows and the system is easy to manage.
Weiwu the calculation of the cooperation between Microsoft, unwilling to talk about, but at the same time Hu recognition software to hardware is very easy to transplant. Windows CE, Windows CE is to support the Godson architecture, he is able to run the O Godson. But there is no contact between us, how the outcome of contact, I can not tell you. that this is a very sensible move: first, for Microsoft, the development of Windows it is matching the Godson architecture easy, just a re-look at the existing procedures for the issue. In Godson does not run on the computer running Windows, can not be running Windows, not a problem, certainly able to run. Second, Microsoft will be considered. First of all, cooperation with the Godson, Microsoft, instead of getting it is eager to commercial interests, and perhaps because of this cooperation is extremely harmful to Microsoft's current cooperation Intel partners feelings, so do not please both sides of things, it is certainly not do it. Second, for any business plan, the multinational giants like Microsoft, it seems, is the risk of intellectual property rights will not be risked to do, because whenever trouble , there a little problem, Microsoft will be caught hold, the resulting loss will be immeasurable.
Qiu Shanqin further believe that the industrial chain in the Godson, in addition to CPU, the most important is the user, or ; who uses his not linked, there is no printer driver supports it, no MP3 support him, support him without a digital camera, you want him to do? less, but the combination of Godson and industry people think has never smooth, and all performance and data analysis has been largely completed in the laboratory, and the reality of Godson CPU market, just being experienced by the cold test, the industrialization of the road embarrassment and incomprehensible.
has informed the correspondents bluntly, Godson current distress situation is self-bound Chinese Academy of Sciences the results of the calculation, the calculation of the project Godson Godson project is too conservative and too much self-doped interests of the expectations, the pace of development delays Godson. has been calculated that the Godson as his unique patented technology, trying to bring the project to calculate certain related income, and this style is not only short-sighted to contain varying degrees a large number of interested to develop the Godson to the industrial environment into related businesses, also lost some of the Godson can seize the opportunity to take off.
The source also said, calculate the terms on the Godson, and never paid much attention to a certain level, the calculation has not formed a comprehensive and sound business plan, has not been the calculation and then the full support of the Academy of Sciences, did not naturally become CAS President Lu Yongxiang desk top case, but did not get technology Department, Ministry of Information Industry, Development and Reform Commission jointly recommend, they will be difficult to form the national will, and can not be the will of the state once Godson, not subject to the same as TD SCDMA nationwide attention, a strong government can not get promotion, the situation is obvious Godson is destined to not be successful, do a good job. live in the government procurement market or in the government market are difficult to play to our strengths, it is difficult to form industrial experience, then Godson future commercial operations, must be a failure, government market it, no doubt, to rise to the national will Godson, a national Code of Conduct.
Qiushan Qin Lu first group do not agree with the view, land that the current government procurement doping too much bureaucracy and formalism , government procurement, the taste changed, government procurement. This can be developed Godson. not suitable, MIPS of processing power is too low, roughly only slightly stronger than the number of machine learning, computational speed is very slow, not really into commercial use, government procurement more difficult.
Godson's chief architect Weiwu is that, firstly, the Government Godson need to seize the support, but a greater task is to develop the Godson himself, to better improve the performance and cost on to achieve the ; set to the ground, .
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CAS Institute of Computing Kai Lun eighth floor, because Weiwu minute meeting, the reporters in a conference room to wait more than an hour. Godson project team meeting room is only separated by a wall with Weiwu office, little space, interior decoration not only not a luxury or even can be used to describe the simple, oval-shaped desk was surrounded by Mi Zaza order is placed lap black chairs, conference room wall is a line of plastic face plate made of white and red banner at the end: huge statue of Mao Zedong, living in the middle of plaster bust, statue left side of the red flag, red flag on the right is the same, plants and flowers at the statue of pot plant staggered around the flavor quite some ritual shrines, because the room side of the window, the sun and gentle warm.
nearly forty years, the Weiwu easygoing,UGG shoes, refined conversation, gestures leisurely, many questions for journalists, Hu said and how to judge the overall strength, according to your understanding, technology leaders and industry colleagues to maintain a kind of attitude should be the most fitness of the Government's support should be how to display? In addition, a large number of readers and the path is quite concerned about the development of Godson, How do you respond to this challenge and look forward to a mixed kind of mood?
Weiwu: remember the Ministry of Science and a leader and I said, we can not because the area of research lost one or two events on the overall integrity of the Chinese scientific researchers. Chinese scientists are so many, we have made, like bombs and one satellite, hybrid rice and other remarkable achievement, we can not lose because of one or two questions on the overall confidence of all researchers, I think this is the media, government and a minimum consensus of the public.
on the Current Chinese is concerned, we have developed to a population bottleneck, the technology also proposed to the General Assembly on the country to enterprises in the innovation capability in general is still relatively weak, in three to five years or two or three decades, to build in China as IBM, Intel R & D center that, in order to form their research and development capabilities as it is difficult, and even possible, and never will be very common, you first have to consider China's unique historical factors, institutional research continues to this day makes the Chinese and the United States and other developed countries that are obviously mature and very different, this is institutional issues. we say is the subject of innovation, more and more obvious, in a very short period of time, including in the chip area, has very achievements, and has broken the hegemony of Western Digital, and even I believe in the world, only China can break such a situation, there is no second countries or regions can challenge the hegemony of Western Digital. We recently did some research, we are experts in the country also have some understanding of the situation, the situation is very good, of course, to solve the br> on the Godson of industrialization, I would like to share with you some experience. Why did the old Communist Party win the war, is the universal law and a good combination of special rules to Godson, the country attaches great importance to independent innovation, integrated circuits, very supportive, This is a universal. Another universal is that the international community has attached great importance to independent innovation, the state has developed to the ridge on the international Once some speech is that China's intellectual property infringement, ah, ah-piracy, anti-dumping ah are these concepts, which shows the one hand, China is a strong addition to outside, 500 inside the world of independent innovation of Chinese companies rarely are the oil, petrochemical. Samsung is South Korea's business card, but the Koreans than fraud powerful and more Chinese people, Americans are fake ah, why do we only focus our innovation did not form the business climate.
in general, the Godson and his particularity. I have often compared the CPU Everest into the chip sector, which is the core, which is the engine of the entire information industry, Intel's 2005 sales of $ 38,000,000,000, $ 35,000,000,000 in 2006, we should say, master general CPU technology, only the United States. Japan in part, with this technology, because he has a number of products, of course, the technology of Japan and the United States are inseparable.
we can recall the course of development of information industry, which basically is IBM, Intel, corporate take up, including the Internet, are based on these technology-based enterprises, including routers, printers, CPU's are needed, and his versatility in a sense, is his specialty, his chain extremely long, first of all you do after a chip, you have to have a set piece it, you have to have the software now, software requires a lot of our nation building in history has not been such a long chain.
Reporter: Some people say Godson has been forced to do both calculations to do hardware and software, and even take up the whole industry chain of the.
Weiwu: This is not, this is a misunderstanding, at least for the Godson is concerned, we are not. We must do not a chain, not to say that we make a product, get the supermarkets to sell to customers, we have to do is the industrial environment. You see Intel, he has his industrial environment, it was for him to do sets of films, It was for him to do the board, some software for him, someone to help him sell a wide variety of applications, there are a wide range of industrial environments. The Godson does, it's very broad, it is also very important, if the state really He developed as an industry, I believe that it is able to break the information monopoly in some countries, but nowadays it is calculated to do Godson industrial environment. From this perspective, in fact, recently we are still very well done , but it comes to industry, talked about A recent experience is that you get the top days, you can easily site, I am the cheapest, lowest power I have, I did the world's most cattle, product performance, power, price, in a piece of the field, or within a certain level, I must be the world's most cattle, I can sell. IC has a law called the sure is 100% of the market, and I did not, you will not be 51%, I 49%. Godson, too, you have to really want to be seen in the market, do reach the peak days of the degree, not to say all the good , even in a grade, or for a certain area, or a range of performance in the market must be the most cattle, this is the way out, which does not support and government support is not related.
can not tell you that we present for Godson industrialization strategy, but I can assure you is that after five or six years of effort, we Godson in the application of certain products has been reached
Reporter: many outsiders have questioned, since the major powers such as Britain and France there is no CPU, no accumulation of China under the premise of doing this worth it? cost you?
Weiwu: this thing ...

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